Posts by Anony Mous

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Capitol Attack Hearings

by shadowclone in

hearings are on the schedule for abc, bbc, cbs, cnn, msnbc and nbc.

not on fox "news".. will you be watching?

or maybe .

Correction: it is being produced by MSNBC (Jen Psaki recently joined them) and other media outlets with the direction by ABC’s James Goldston, MSNBC is making complete with graphics, commentary etc while CBS is making it into a special. They literally changed the common senate schedule to make sure as many people can watch it (prime time is 7-10pm well outside regular working hours for our Congress critters)

The senate committee literally got a producer which is going to produce multi-media and special effects to demonstrate on prime time what they infer actually happened complete with directed pre-recordings, make-up etc.

The committee refuses to disclose how it decided to hire and who is paying for the production or who is paying the network for their prime time slots.

They should put a disclaimer: based on a true story, The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this production are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred.

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14 kids dead and one teacher at Texas school shooting.

by jojorabbit in

another shooting, this time 14 kids dead more wounded and a teacher dead.

i am all for the second amendment and this does not change my mind.

but i do hate this kind of thing, makes my stomach turn.

Anony Mous

There is still a lot of conflicting information coming out of this, the official police story and timeline seems to be completely made up.

The MSM seems to have given up on promoting the story though after it became clear the perp was trans-adjacent (black eyeliner, cutting, bullied for posting feminine instagrams), cops did nothing, a border patrol agent, not police, killed the perp and that parents were being held back by police.

This seems a lot like Parkland, mysterious instructions to police, doors to the school left unlocked, armed guard missing from their post, police refusing to get in, an 18 year old living on a single parent income making minimum wage with a history of mental illness and repeated contact with authorities, drug and school problems getting their hands on $5000 rifles, an illegal hand gun, and a $45,000 truck, thousands more in optics, gear and bullets. The next 12 hours you have washed up politicians like Beto that have staged an entire scene with multiple people to make a public statement all in time for the midterms.

Like Parkland and Sandy Hook, a lot of these things don’t add up. I’m sure all these parents will come out of the woodwork to prescribe all forms of left wing ideals to solve the situation from gun control to universal healthcare and gender surgery. But solving the problem like adding security to schools and making school and police administrators (politicians) responsible for failing to act, oh no, kids may hurt their feelings seeing a gun or a locked door, plus then we’d have less problems we can use to prescribe our political priors.

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Who do you think the DEMONS are?

by raymond frantz in

the watchtower teaches that the demons are the angels that came down here on earth right before the flood but research shows otherwise in this video i consider the identity of demons.if you never looked in this subject you will find this interesting ,let me know what you think.

https://youtu.be/m1zfyhmlyx0.

Anony Mous

Demons weren’t always evil, in most cultures, including Judaism, they are simply divine messengers.

Only in later Christian mythology does there become a division between good and evil divine creatures which really points to the need for a duality of a unified god-person if humans don’t want to be held responsible for their actions (which is what absolution for sins through Jesus is supposed to represent).

Judaism doesn’t have that because God is to them only good and evil comes solely from people’s actions, hence people should be held responsible for their actions instead of blaming or seeking absolution through others.

Noteworthy as I skimmed through the video, I’m not sure if it was pointed out, but the entire underpinning of the Watchtower deviation from classical Christianity for their interpretation of Satan, Demons, and Angels, hinges on a book from the Bible they don’t even have in their Bible (Book of Enoch).

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Congregation in PA sues over mandatory reporting

by Corney in

ivy hill congregation of jehovah's witnesses is currently suing the pa department of human services.

it requests "a declaration that its elders are entitled to" clergy privilege, or, in the alternative,.

to the extent that the clergyman privilege is determined to exclude its elders on the basis that they are "members of [a] religious organization[] in which members other than the leader thereof are deemed clergymen or ministers," the court declare the statute to be unconstitutional.

Anony Mous

@Fisherman: the legal question was answered before in JW vs WTBTS and SCOTUS affirmed the case just a few years ago that the JW methodology does exclude it from clergy penitent privilege.

Clergy penitent privilege has the distinction that they are privileged between two parties (spouses, attorneys, marriage counselors, or doctors have similar protections for very much the same reasons). Most states have mandatory reporting for many crimes, so that does not exclude them if they know certain crimes are ongoing.

What JW vs WTBTS established however is that because WTBTS has not just a confession but that then gets turned into a tribunal of sorts (they initiate further contact, keep and share a record within the congregation and other third parties such as the parent corporation in NY) and keeps track of these events for whatever reason, they are now responsible for the sharing of that information with anyone else who has an interest, it’s being treated as if the person is not just laity but an employee, because instead of a private conversation, within the JW corporations it really is a business process and in that business process they are dealing with basically judging on very serious criminal matters. Hence why it is called a judicial committee although the judges never really evaluated the nomenclature.

Basically the courts held that they have taken it upon themselves because of accurate records keeping to now become liable for a failure to give notice.

It’s similar to you going to a mechanic for a problem with your car, based on what you tell them on the phone, they tell you they think it’s a serious manufacturer error. They are not liable if you ignore them and crash the car. However if you bring it to them, they inspect it and make notes, then share those notes with the manufacturer, they and the manufacturer are now liable if they don’t give notice to you and others, such as your insurance, a state inspection, DMV or federal agency that your car is totaled and should not be driven.

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New JW.Watch Website - Plans, Ideas & Submissions

by Simon in

i want to create a new site to help people leaving the wts.. the idea is that it will be curated content of articles and videos on specific subjects such as how to fade, how to handle family, personal experiences of leaving, mistakes to avoid, plus practical life matters impacted by the wts such as how to create or rebuild a career, planning for retirement, getting counselling, making friends etc.... the idea is that it should be lots of voices to share the love and promote lots of people's channels so it becomes a more effective resource (hopefully there will always be something informative and appealing to the people visiting).. if you have a youtube channel that you would like featured, or maybe have some specific video or series that would suit, i'd be happy to include them.. likewise, if you have a subject you'd like to write about and can share some practical knowledge and guidance on, or have a life-story you'd like to share because your experience could benefit others, please let me know.. i bought a domain and setup some placeholder content:.

https://jw.watch.

please message me or post here if you have any questions or ideas..

Anony Mous

I think perhaps an anti-JW.org would be great. Not necessarily the meat and potatoes content about 607 and 1914 nobody in the organization would ever understand or reads, but simple articles, if well written, targeted at specific audiences (young people, people thinking about joining and actual members).

The one thing the JW does well is have catchy phrases and seemingly deep questions that pull you in, then they use deceptive tricks (1 truth and a half truth) to make people think they have good answers. So if you take the same approach but use actual correct reasoning, you can point out logical inconsistency.

I’m not necessarily a good writer, but I can editorialize and research pretty well, I’d be willing to help out, but I have a real life now, so I can’t dedicate hours per day to this.

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The One Way Speed of Light Could Be Instantaneous

by Sea Breeze in

physics students learn the speed of light, c, is the same for all inertial observers but no one has ever actually measured it in one direction.

assuming that light travels the same speed in all directions is a convention, rather than an experimentally verified fact.

this really challenges what we think we know.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptn6ewhb27k&ab_channel=veritasium .

Anony Mous

A speed of light has definitely been measured. We do it all the time. We measure radio waves in frequencies and we have even slowed down light to a relative snail’s pace. We even measure distances by the time it takes for a signal to reach another side through a medium like fiber optics or copper.

First mistake: the speed of light is variable depending on the medium it is traveling through

Second mistake: the theoretical maximum speed of the speed of light in a vacuum in a flat area of space has been empirically established

Third mistake: the speed of light is not a speed barrier - the speed of light has been increasing ever since the Universe popped into existence, if you were an observer outside the Universe that is the speed of light has been increasing and at some point spacetime expansion will go faster than the speed of light. the speed of light can be a lot faster than the speed of light, information cannot travel faster than the speed of light. For example if you point a laser at the moon and then move that laser pointer very quickly back and forth, the laser, when viewed on the moon will appear to go back and forth faster than the speed of light, obviously with this method no information is being transferred to the moon any faster than the speed of light.

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What are Jehovah's Witnesses' stance on home ownership?

by timothytha in

what do people usually think of when they buy a house?

"i will probably live here for a long time" (you're invested with your time), "i will save money by building equity over time".

(you've invested in yourself financially for the long run) of course, i wouldn't be able to list the numerous reasons why people want to buy a house.

Anony Mous

Interesting thing is that in congregations/circuits where home ownership is looked down or even frowned upon, whenever the ‘specials’ come (circuit overseers, bethel speakers for the special talk), the PO always seems to pick the person with the biggest house to go have lunch, dinner and sleep at night.

A really long time ago, my mother made this remark when we were all still PIMI to the CO, we offer our hospitality every year and open our house to everyone, yet because you would have to sleep in a small room, you don’t accept our invitation.

My mother and grandmother have been in da troof since 1950s, my mom eventually left about 20 years ago but my grandmother still is, never once had they had a ‘special’ visitor overnight, even though they offer every chance.

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Are You Concerned About Inflation?

by Simon in

i saw a statistic the other day that something like 25% of all the debt that the us has incurred since 1776 was created in the last 12 months.

that's because they have printed so much currency and instead of letting that stop them, they are going to continue printing more to go on a spending spree on crazy green-new-deal schemes and union handouts.. does anyone think that this can be anything other than inflationary?

they are effectively stealing the wealth of everyone to then hand money out to people.

Anony Mous

At least people got their $15 minimum wage now.

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Response to "The Flood is Real, Because ..."

by Simon in

i remember one of the flowchart responses to people questioning the biblical flood was something along the lines that "every culture has a flood story".. of course, nearly everywhere has flooded at one time or another and we know there are minor floods and then there are the 1-in-1000 year kind of weather event, that tend to get a mention (anyone from the uk will still talk about the summer of '76, and that's probably nothing in comparison to a decent flood).. but the inference is that the flood must be real, because every culture has a flood story.. the best response is "now do dragons".. because apparently, nearly every culture also has a dragon legend.. does it mean dragons exist?

some desperate jw may show their ignorance by suggesting that man lived at the same time as dinosaurs and they are what the stories were based on.

fun fact: stegosaurus was a fossil when t-rex was alive for longer than it's been since t-rex has been a fossil to us - we're talking old, and no overlap (ignore the map in the cover of the old green bible).. do jws still even bother trying to defend the cray-cray aesop-fable kind of ot beliefs?.

Anony Mous

@Sea breeze: how come all water isn’t brackish water then? If this truly happened 6000 years ago, did the Himalayas suddenly rise? We know you need at least 50-to-500 of a species to allow for sufficient genetic diversity, how did everything survive?

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Response to "The Flood is Real, Because ..."

by Simon in

i remember one of the flowchart responses to people questioning the biblical flood was something along the lines that "every culture has a flood story".. of course, nearly everywhere has flooded at one time or another and we know there are minor floods and then there are the 1-in-1000 year kind of weather event, that tend to get a mention (anyone from the uk will still talk about the summer of '76, and that's probably nothing in comparison to a decent flood).. but the inference is that the flood must be real, because every culture has a flood story.. the best response is "now do dragons".. because apparently, nearly every culture also has a dragon legend.. does it mean dragons exist?

some desperate jw may show their ignorance by suggesting that man lived at the same time as dinosaurs and they are what the stories were based on.

fun fact: stegosaurus was a fossil when t-rex was alive for longer than it's been since t-rex has been a fossil to us - we're talking old, and no overlap (ignore the map in the cover of the old green bible).. do jws still even bother trying to defend the cray-cray aesop-fable kind of ot beliefs?.

Anony Mous

There were floods that covered the world, the problem is that the world was defined as everything between the Euphrates and the Tigris. You don’t need the fantastical to create water, if all you know about the world is a few 100 miles large, everything that upsets your precarious situation is fantastical.

The early humans had experience with snakes, birds of prey and giant cats. Put all the most dangerous things together, sometimes with a human head, and you have the most dangerous creature of all, a dragon that embodies all the worst things you can find in the world, and as cultures shift, those dragon bodies become horse bodies in European, more snake like in Asian or whale and fish bodies in ocean-faring cultures, whatever seems strong and dangerous.